![]() ![]() There should be no surprise that the thinker most famous for practicing deceptive rhetoric has deceived us. In spite of this, at least a few scholars have noted contradictions within Protagoras’ argument that suggest he has a more sinister agenda. Protagoras’ vigorous defense of moral instruction is so persuasive that many classical scholars are led to question the longstanding belief that he was in any way corrupt. He follows his retelling of the myth with a logical argument that directly addresses Socrates’ concern by demonstrating that the variability of success rates substantiates the teachability of virtue rather than undermines it. In his famous appropriation of the Prometheus myth, Protagoras establishes the divine origin of political wisdom and its possession by all humanity as a gift of the gods. Thousands of international students want to come here to studyThis is a really complex issue.Despite Protagoras’ infamous reputation for corrupting his students, his “Great Speech” (Plato, Protagoras 320c-328d) presents one of the most important arguments in the history of ethics.1 Refuting Socrates’ contention that virtue must be unteachable since even the best of men cannot raise good children, Protagoras argues that everyone is capable of learning the difference between right and wrong.2 He supports this conviction by appealing to both traditional myth and logical reasoning. What those students have done those is two things at the same time. ![]() The pay full freight tuition so in theory they help lower the cost for US students (good). But that extra money also allows the Universities to spend like drunken sailors whereby if the money ever stopped flowing (as they are whining now) and the party ends we have a much higher cost basis at schools.Not to mention that foreign and highly motivated students also take away opportunity (no question) from own own students by ironically raising the bar.I think I remember you played basketball in college? (Am I right?). What if at that time there had been a ton of 7 foot 5 people from other countries. Think you would have had the same benefits and opportunities? Not saying we shouldn’t let some big guys in but if you look at the makeup of the school that I went to now vs. back when I graduated it’s very clear there are spots being taken up by high achieving people from overseas. Some of this is good but there does need to be limits to keep opportunity for those born here. If there were better basketball players that could beat me, then the coach should have selected them.Sure that might be good for the school and for the alumni who care about their team winning but it’s not good for the guy who is a US citizen who didn’t make the cut. It removes opportunity for people born here who quite frankly should be first in line.Taken to an extreme there is very likely enough people in the world of higher caliber (you have billions to select from) and motivation than those in the US to be able to take every single slot in our schools or for that matter entrepreneurial opportunities. Nobody thinks that there shouldn’t be some people that are allowed here (or that it benefits us (sure it does) or raises the game if sports). But there is no question that limits are needed it’s only a matter of where the line is drawn.And try telling the high school kid that doesn’t get a slot because he isn’t as good as some kid from overseas who took it. ![]()
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